Jill Kargman on What to Expect from Season 3 of Odd Mom Out
The Webers—and von Webers—are officially back. The new season of Odd Mom Out premieres tonight at 10 p.m. ET on Bravo, and you can count on plenty of hilarious drama as the aftermath of last season’s major Ponzi scheme reveal unfolds. “We pick up a month after the events of the season finale, and you’ll get to see the fallout from that,” the show’s star and creator, Jill Kargman, recently told InStyle. “Everyone is having to make these choices that they never thought they’d be facing.”
While many of the Upper East Siders are struggling to accept their financial losses, Kargman’s character, Jill Weber, and her family are going about life as usual. “In the first episode, we’re going to camp visiting day in Maine—and it’s an entirely different world,” she said. “Then, when we get there, we find out that the girls have a competitive dance team. And they look like strippers.”
Scroll down for our full chat with Kargman about season three of Odd Mom Out.
What was the one storyline that you were most excited about this season?
I wanted to address my onscreen daughter Hazel’s coming-of-age. My TV kids are younger than my IRL kids—I have a fourteen-year-old daughter, Sadie—but I wanted to explore adolescence. We did the whole getting into kindergarten thing already, but I wanted to get more into how both parents cope with those changes. I did use a lot from my real life—I have a really good relationship with my kids. Sadie and I don’t fight that much, but we did bicker about her clothes because there was a moment where these girls wanted to dress like Reno prostitutes. She doesn’t want to dress like that anymore at 14, but at 12, she was begging for that. So Hazel is at the age where she’s pushing against my character imposing her own style on her and wanting her to wear peter pan collars. She wants to be in body-cons that look like they were latex painted on her. She has a definite evolution throughout the season as we’re grappling with her attitude and door-slamming and wanting to dress a certain way and her friends getting their periods. It’s fun stuff.
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In real life, do you and your daughter have the same fashion sense?
She has a really good sense of style—I approve now! But she doesn’t wear black. We look nothing alike—she’s blonde and blued-eyed and looks like a Swedish person. She actually played the teen blogger, “Bag Bitch,” in the Hamilton episode of season two, but people would never realize that I put my daughter on the show because she looks like her dad and not like me. She can wear more color, whereas I look like a dead body when I wear color—although I did wear ugly pink dresses in both season finales.
What’s the biggest difference between Jill Kargman and Jill Weber?
I think the biggest difference is that I married a WASP-y husband in the show. In real life, my husband’s Jewish and I have Jewish kids and that’s it. I think the conflict and the interesting stuff comes from differences, and I think if you have your own little pod at home that is like-minded, nothing in the outside world really gets to you in the same way. Whereas, on the show, it was about taking the feelings of alienation and heightening it. If I have a family that also sort of sees me as “other”—particularly with the revelation that they are basically Nazis—and I’m in this dynastic, “roman numeral” family, it’s just so different. It made it more pronounced. The other major difference is that I feel like the character version of myself is the real me at 28, when I was a new mother and so worried about what people thought. I just felt way more vulnerable then, whereas now, I just don’t care. I think 42 comes with such liberation about opinions.”
Is there anything that you’d been wanting to do on the show that finally made it into an episode this season?
Yes—there are a bunch of things, actually. One idea that we brought back is sort of the double standard with dads, where when they’re hands-on, they get a parade or something. So we have an actual hands-on dad parade. I feel like [my husband] Harry will tie a kid’s shoe and people are like “Awww.” They think that’s so hands-on. But he’s the dad!
Last season ended with the reveal that many of the Webers’s family and friends were invested in what turned out to be a Ponzi scheme. How did you decide to throw that into the mix?
I’ll be at a party and still hear about the fallout, with people saying, “Oh, they were all in with Madoff,“ or whatever. It’s still just on people’s minds. I feel like it’s the gift that keeps on giving—or really, the horror that keeps on scaring—in terms of the fallout of wealthy people losing money and how they reassess their lives and values. Essentially in the season premiere, we find everybody grappling with the changes in their lives. One person’s just staring at a painting and the gallerist is like, “Can I help you? You’ve been staring at this for an hour,” and the woman says, “I had to fire my art advisor, and now I have to figure out if I like paintings by myself.” Then, another one is like, “I had to choose between my horse farm in Millbrook or my ski chalet in Aspen.” Brooke had to fire the weekend staff and just has staff Monday through Friday, so she’s drowning with her four kids. And that’s sort of where we pick up.
Are Jill and her husband, Andy, feeling like the new wealthy couple on the block since they didn’t lose any money?
We still have our same issues and worries. The other people—as with many of the Madoff victims—aren’t poor. They just have less. But they still have more than us. So we’re just kind of trying to be there for them, especially Andy for Lex, in terms of forging his new identity away from Wall Street.
Jill and her best friend, Vanessa, are total #BFFgoals. Where do we find Vanessa this season?
When we originally conceived the idea of her reuniting with her ex-husband, Graham, I thought it was so romantic. But once we started writing and filming it, I was like, “They’re not gonna end up together.” When we get back to them, he’s in Burundi and they’re trying to make it work. There are all kinds of crazy adventures. We actually have two “adventure” episodes this season: one bashes the suburbs and takes place in Greenwich, Connecticut; the other is an L.A. episode, where I get a photography job and trade my business class tickets for two coach tickets so I can bring Vanessa with me. We try to recapture our youth and go crazy on the Sunset Strip. We get s—faced and wind up at this crazy party. It was my first time filming outside of New York—because I’ve never been an actress before—so I’m sitting in Hollywood with the Hollywood sign and the palm trees and I was like, “Woooo, living the dream!” We had the best time out there.
The show has had some pretty memorable guest stars, including your sister-in-law Drew Barrymore last season. Who can we expect to see this season?
There are so many gems of performances this season. Christine Taylor plays Brooke’s bitch older sister, and she’s perfection. She’s so funny. I just re-watched The Wedding Singer, and she’s so good in it. Peter Scolari, who played Lena Dunham’s dad on Girls, he’s amazing. And then Rachel Feinstein—who’s a stand-up comedian that I love—is in the first episode, and she’s hilarious.
Other than Odd Mom Out, what shows are making you laugh right now?
I can’t wait for Broad City to come back in August. It's my favorite, and I love those girls. Tony Hernandez is the head of Jax Media, our company, and he’s really the biggest champion of women in New York and comedy. He does Inside Amy Schumer, Broad City, and Full Frontal With Samantha Bee, and I feel so honored to be in that company. I just feel like he gets it, so I love all of those shows. And then my other favorite show is [Last Week Tonight With] John Oliver. I look to that show as my therapy, and I watch it every Sunday night—even if I’m wiped out from the kids or whatever. I combat crawl to 11 o’clock just to stay up for it because I think his mind is the best on television. Billions, which just finished its’ recent season, has been my favorite drama. And, of course, I’m waiting for Game of Thrones to come back.
Billions and Broad City are both New York-centric shows, like your own. Over the years, which shows do you think really get the city just right?
I mean, Sex and the City, of course. But when I was coming of age, it was also Different Strokes. Really, my mind goes right to Woody Allen movies, because I was obsessed with Manhattan and Annie Hall and Husbands and Wives. My number one of all time is Hannah and Her Sisters, which is very much a love letter to New York—almost more than Manhattan, even though it doesn’t have the Gershwin. But there’s Barbara Hershey’s monologue about the seasons and she’s walking along the river—it’s all New York, all the time, in every season. And I’m obsessed with it.